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May 18, 2011 12:07PM

Why do we hold 30 MPG up as the gold standard for fuel efficient cars?

Why aren't we demanding 40 and 50 MPG?  I know some of the hybrids

get over 40 MPG, but I think ALL cars should get at least 40 MPG.

May 11, 2011 7:33AM
Whoever makes these lists is an idiot. Do more research before you pick your favorite cars.
May 18, 2011 1:58PM
My wife has a  12 year old Honda CIVIC Coupe that gets 34 mpg --12 years old!  How come no real progress since then?  And her British brother in law drives a really neat 4 door car (I wish we produced it over here!) and he gets about  SIXTY mpg (it's a diesel) --must be a plot over here not to get more mpg than we are  getting!  If the Brits can do it, how come we can't!
May 12, 2011 4:14PM
Honda and Subaru are def number one cars! Had owned each of these for over 200 k miles and never had any problems. Japanese cars are best and less for ever. Our car makers should just face the truth that we are way behind. SOmeone  said something about union companies - who gives a crap about em !  Its us , that they have to care about, if they want to get our money - better come up with some quality!
Jun 1, 2011 12:01AM
My 08 honda civic gets 37 to 40 MPG but the EPA rated it at 28/32 for the stick shift model. Why do they rate civics of the late 2000s so low. I drive it as fast as most people do, I'm not a hyper-miler. Anyone would get 37 to 40 with it. The EPA sucks.

I had a 92 honda civic vx hatch and it got 48 city and 55 highway with no hybrid stuff, pure gas. They can still do that but they don't want to.
May 20, 2011 7:19PM
I agree with "eating discipline" there hasn't been any REAL improvement in MPG in years. In many cases the MPG has gone down.  I drive a 2000 Pontiac Bonneville SLE, 3800 V6 "rated" at 30 MPG HWY. And that's what I get 30-32 depending on how hard I push it.  But comparable cars today like the Chrysler 300, Chevy Impala, Ford Fusion all with V6's are "rated" at 25-28 MPG.  What's up with that? We go from 30 MPG "rating" in 2000, down to 25-28 MPG in 2011.

Now the Bonneville is a fine ride. But if I want to get better mileage I have to trade down to one of these butt ugly cracker boxes for 6-8 more MPG?  I don't think so.

The technology for better gas mileage  has been out there for decades, even on the old carburetor engines and bigger cars. 30-50 MPG V8's. Why aren't we seeing it when Detroit has the ability?  Big oil, the EPA, and Washington control the show.

Jul 22, 2011 10:58AM
30 MPG is Not good mileage.  What do these auto makers think we're stupid.
Jul 22, 2011 2:25PM

I don't care where the supposed home office of a carmaker is - ownership is all global nowadays. This household has two Hyundais and one Kia and all were built by American laborers in the USA.

How many Ford, GM, and Chrysler products are anymore and how long has that been the case? The last 3 Dodge/Chrysler minivans we had all were made in Canada while our first two were made in St. Louis.

Don't bash the brand until you know the facts. We are at the point now where a lot of Americans are building cars in the USA for overseas corporations. At least they have opened plants in the Stateswhile we in Illinois have watched GM close Fisher Body and Chrysler close Belvedere.

May 18, 2011 12:05PM
Switched from Honda Civic to Kia Rio. Get 31 mpg in town and 35 mpg on the highway with my automatic. Was not sure I would love it as much as a Honda, but after 2 years, very happy with my Kia Rio. It also has a better warranty than Toyotas or Hondas, which we have driven for most of our lives.
Sep 21, 2011 5:50AM
I bought a 2007 Yaris Hatchback 8/06. I've kept mileage since then. The lowest has been 31 and the highest 38, but then I'm not a conservative driver.  At 72 years of age and getting cuter all the time, this is the best car I've ever owned. Oh, by the way, I haven't hit 10,000 miles yet!
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