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Jun 20, 2012 9:30AM

Every car company kisses the **** of J D Powers... How can consumers be so stupid to believe in Motor Trend and JD Powers?  Car companies pay these organizations for reviews... What a joke!  When I buy a car, I go look at them and form my own opinion. My Dad owned a car dealership.  All people in the car business know this is true...  Don't be one of the mindless heard and believe these organizations.  The only way to buy a car is to GO LOOK AT THEM...  

It is like Car Fax... Consumers think it shows ALL vehicle history... I have news for you, it doesn't.  There are more mechanics and repair shops that DO NOT report to Car Fax than there are that do.  If you want to see if a car has been in an accident, look at the factory bolts, have they been wrenched?  Educate yourself, used cars are a risk and only YOU can protect yourself. Spend 5 minutes on the internet researching how to protect yourself against used car fraud and you will save yourself thousands...

Jun 20, 2012 9:01AM
Just utterly amazed that Hyundai Sonota & Genesis' did not make the list, guess they didn't write a large enough check to JD Powers 
Jun 26, 2012 4:30AM

Here is to Japanese quality:

2007 Honda Odyssey:

Nav system replaced at 34k miles

First set of tires wore out in 36k miles

Heat shield replaced in 60k miles

Climate control backlight bulbs fused in 60k miles

Heated seat backlight indicator bulb fused in 60 miles.

License plate light bulb fused in 60k miles.

Glove box damper broke in 60k miles (glove box is not even opened at all).

Battery died at 63k miles.

Second set of tires wore out in 66k miles.

Cruise control stopped working at 67k miles


These problems are in addition to all the routine maintenace items. In 67k miles, total spent in routine maintenance and repairs: $4093, miles 67k. $2.24/day in maintenance.


2006 Toyota Corolla:

Brake callipers siezed causing premature wear of brake pads at 46k miles. Cost to repair $650.


If anyone calls this quality, they do not know the meaning of word of quality, be it Edmunds, Consumer Reports, JD Power, NHTSA ro whatever they choose to call themself. How do these agencies judge quality? First 90 days of ownership? That is a joke.


1998 Dodge Caravan:

Traded-in at 98k miles, no problems other than routine maintenance.

Jun 20, 2012 9:14AM
The Volkswagen Passat was named Motor Trend Car of the year... Not on the list?  These lists are just advertisments car companies pay for kinda like Motor Trend Car of the year?  The Yaris... common!  It is like a tin can, literally!
Jun 20, 2012 10:16AM
Just as I thought.  They listed both foreign and American cars and people are still finding something to complain about.  Maybe there's a conspiracy, maybe not.  Who cares?  Buy the car you want to buy.
Jun 20, 2012 9:58AM
another random list pulled out of someones butt
Jul 26, 2012 4:59AM
And another thing,  NEVER fall for that "initial quality survey" crap!  What a load of horse hockey.  What is REALLY important is how will that same car be holding up with 120,000 miles on it?  THEN the real test of quality shows.  Long-term durability is where it's really at.  Sure, most cars off the line will feel fine, even 6 months and 12,000 miles later.  But just wait.  All that plastic and inferior build  quality will soon show,  just like that '12 Dodge Caravan i rented.  What a trashy transmission, it could'nt figure out wich gear to stay in, felt like it was going to disintegrate.  The doors would get stuck, and only with 3,500 miles on it.  Cheap.
Jun 26, 2012 3:09PM
Even the Urban Dictionary knows Toyota's are crap.

Toyota - [toy-Yo-TAH]

A Japanese automobile manufacturer whose ultimate goal is to destroy every last trace of the American automotive industry through paying off news media and shady, under-the-table business practice. However, their arrogance is going to their heads (a la GM and Ford circa 1975) and now quality is starting to slip and Toyota's design is getting uglier by the day. Lexus IS300s in China are being recalled because of the possibility of an engine explosion. But like the good sheep we Americans are, we continue to buy Toyota Camrys in droves because we read Consumer Reports and believe their (biased) opinion.
Jul 21, 2012 2:58PM
List of Ford's Made in the USA:

Ford    Ford Econoline, Avon Lake, Ohio
Ford    Ford Escape, Claycomo, Mo.
Ford    Ford Escape Hybrid, Claycomo, Mo.
Ford    Ford Expedition, Louisville, Ky.
Ford    Ford Explorer, Louisville, Ky.
Ford    Ford F-150, Claycomo Mo.; Dearborn, Mich.
Ford    Ford F-250, Louisville, Ky.
Ford    Ford Focus, Wayne, Mich.
Ford    Ford Mustang, Flat Rock, Mich.
Ford    Ford Ranger, St. Paul, Minn.
Ford    Ford Shelby GT500, Flat Rock, Mich.
Ford    Ford Taurus, Chicago, IL
Ford    Lincoln MKS, Chicago, IL
Ford    Lincoln Navigator, Louisville, Ky.

Jun 20, 2012 8:50AM
Very subjective list, very arbitrary, as most of these are.
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