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Feb 14, 2012 5:17PM
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I was surprised to see that there were any gasoline powered trucks in this comparison, and even more surprised to see not one single diesel. Diesel trucks blow away inefficient gas trucks in any comparison. They also tow way more and last way longer. My 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 gets 22-24mpg on average with the High Output Cummins and it's an extended cab and a 4x4. I also don't understand why the EPA and CARB hate diesels so much, besides the fact that the EPA and CARB are run by sleazy politicians. Diesels last longer, so less parts ending up in the junkyard and less new parts are purchased so there's less sales tax revenue. Diesels can run on waste vegetable oil, so less fuel tax revenues. Diesels use less fuel, so that also brings in less tax revenue. Also, what was never mentioned in this article is the fact that pretty much all gas now days is polluted with ethanol which greatly decreases your mpg rating. Just look at the epa ratings on the department of energy website for vehicles running on e85. A truck that gets 21mpg on unpolluted gas might get 15 with e85. Again, this is what the epa, carb, and the politicians running them want. More tax revenue, which means more of your hard earned money. Think about it, it's the only logical reason. Why else would the EPA fine someone $30k for using a much cleaner and cheaper fuel (ie. vege oil, natural gas) in their vehicle, just because they don't have $100k/year to pay the EPA to certify it every year. You won't get fined for using ethanol though.
Mar 18, 2012 5:22PM
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I have been in the construction industry for 35 years, it is really hard to consider Trundra, Tocoma, Frontier, Equator and Ridgeline pickup trucks.....maybe want to be pickup trucks. Ridgeline is good for people to say they own a pickup......maybe to haul some good sail boat fuel around. Most of these trucks are for the residential home owner to drive around and pick up their bags of mulch.  The rest have a long way to go before they can catch to the real work horses like the Ford, Chevy and Dodge has been for years. 
Apr 1, 2012 8:18AM
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There are two kinds of trucks.....work trucks, and toy trucks. We should not treat them as if they were the same. They have very different capabilities and very different buyers. All of the large trucks are very capable of working, and towing, and doing what a truck is designed to do. And the Toyota Tundra is part of that group (I wouldn't buy one, but it is capable of working). Those small Japanese pickups are toys...period. I don't really know what they are designed to do, but they are NOT designed for work like a truck. If you want to work your truck, gas mileage is not your primary focus. If gas mileage is your primary focus, why are you considering a truck? 

Feb 1, 2012 6:19AM
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The recent mileage improvements for full sized pickups are moderate improvements. My 1990 GMC Sierra with 4.3L V6 with just a 4 spd 700R4 Automatic and posi 3.42 rear axle gets a steady 23MPG. The mileage improvements in full sized pickups should and will get much better since the manufacturers are forced to meet the federally mandated requirements by 2015-2016. While this is good for consumers, it gives manufacturers time to once again raise prices even more. Many wise consumers are wondering why the USA is not a market for the redesigned Ford Ranger Diesel, VW Amorok Diesel, or the upcoming Colorado/Canyon with a Diesel (Like the Rest of the World). Full sized 1/2 ton pickups would also do well with a 4 or 6 cylinder diesel capable of providing enough torque to pull and haul sufficiently for half ton pickups while providing close to 30 MPG highway. Looks as though domestic manufacturers are more concerned with foreign markets than the market here that bailed most of them out. 
Mar 18, 2012 1:24PM
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Bunch of hogwash to say the new vehicles are more fuel efficient. We own a 20 year old  F150 with a v8 engine.  Don't know what's so special about the mileage posted, since we've gotten 18-24 mpg since owning it.  No incentive there to buy new if nothing has changed for MPG in 20 years.    
Mar 31, 2012 9:54AM
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What about diesels?  I have a one ton Ford that produces 350 hp, 4wd that can do a lot of work.  It gets 24 mph which compares favorably with your 2wd 4 and 6 cylinder gas engines that can't pull anything and last 150,000 miles.  The US auto makers need to catch up with the rest of the world and produce diesels for everything.    Many great vehicles are produced by American auto builders and sold overseas but not here.  The government needs to get out of its own way and stop discriminating against diesels.  It would decrease our fuel comsumption by 30 percent.  When biodiesel is readily available everywhere it will cost much less than petro diesel.

 

An article like this makes it obvious what is wrong with this country, and the myths perpetuated by the media, the government and advertisers.  It is not ususual for diesel engines to go well past 500,000 miles.  A long lived engine can go 1,000,000 miles.

 

As for those of you that think trucks are for show, you need to get out of the suburbs more and see how people live in rural areas.

Feb 18, 2012 11:22AM
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Redesigned Chevy Colorado with 2 diesel engine choices on sale in Asia right now, Ford Ranger  complete redesign with diesel,not for sale in USA, VOLKSWAGON TDI Amarok being withheld from the USA. TOYOTA and NISSAN have diesels all over the world. What is this a conspiracy ???  Keep Americans believing a 20 mpg truck is super duper so they can maintain the inflated pricing and huge profits on the BIGGGG BEASTS ! ! ! Also, WALL STREET loves the OIL STOCKS. Got the US, yes that's "us" right  where they want "us",  BENT OVER THE OIL BARREL ! ! ! !

Mar 21, 2012 5:53AM
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Thsi is not any thing to brag about, maybe you younger folks don't remember but cars got better fuel milage several years ago. They heavier and less complicated not mention a lot less expensive. Leave this new junk on the lots until we are offered something worth purchasing. Figure your cost on a new vehicle by dividing the weight of the vehicle into the cost of the vehicle. You may be surprised. Vw had a car in the 80's that got 52 miles per gallon. Remember the more gas it burns the more taxes are paid. Knowing how our elected officials don't give a crap about you, then you should vote all incumbants out or are dumb as a box of rocks?
Feb 2, 2012 9:48AM
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Nice to see they left out the Ford Ranger 4cylinder - the one they don't want to make anymore in 2012 USA,  and the one that gets good gas mileage and probably all the truck 80% of us need.

 

4 cyl, 2.3 L, Manual 5-spd, Regular Gasoline      22 city  27 highway 

 

There is nothiing "Pump Wise" about a full sized and even some small sized pickups. The article is not good for a contractor who has no choice but to drive this or a van because the mileage between trucks here is neglible. Need payload stats.

 

This article is for the gas powered pickup truck owner who uses it 3X a year to haul stuff and feels that he needs to spend big money on a "just in case" scenario and then  is tormented by higher gas prices so he worries whether or not he should by one.  Dude, if you are worried about 1-3 MPG on your new truck then buy a car and rent a truck when you really need it. Trust me, most of us rent trucks and drive hatchbacks. Save big!

Mar 18, 2012 4:07PM
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You know I have a 97 Chevy 1/2 ton with a 5.7L engine and it gets about 15 around town and 24 on the highway, oh did I mention its 4 wheel drive also. So really no improvement there. I also have a 05 3/4 ton crewcab with the duramax and it gets about the same as my 97.

wake me up when things improve. Its all ad hpye, cars and trucks have been getting the same milage for 20 years now, with little improvement. I have a friend who has a rabbit that gets better then 60mpg on the highway, its not a hybrid and its about 15 years old now. Granted it is a 5 speed and an diesel. but to say an hybrid that gets 40 is great its not.
My 67 mustang with a v-8 when I was in college got 20 mpg.

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