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Carbon Motors Denied Government Loan for Police Cruiser

By Jake Lingeman

By AutoWeek Mar 8, 2012 2:39PM

Carbon Motors was denied a DOE loan for a more efficient police cruiser. Photo by Carbon.




Carbon Motors, an Indiana-based company that aims to build police vehicles, said on Wednesday that the Department of Energy has denied its application for a loan under the Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing program.


The loan program was created under President George W. Bush and continued with President Barack Obama. It's a $25 billion plan funded by Congress to provide capital to the automotive industry for backing vehicles that meet higher mileage requirements and lessen the country's dependence on foreign oil.


Production of the Carbon Motors E7 was supposed to begin this year. The company says it has received reservations for the car from more than 500 law-enforcement offices. According to the company Web site, the E7 will use an aluminum spaceframe structure and will be built to survive a 75-mph rear impact. Carbon signed a deal with BMW in 2010 to provide 240,000 3.0-liter diesel engines for the cars.


“We are outraged by the actions of the DOE and it is clear that this was a political decision in a highly charged, election-year environment,” William Santana Li, Carbon Motors Corp. chairman, said in a statement. “Since Solyndra became politicized last fall, the DOE has failed to make any other loans under the ATVM program, has pulled back one loan that it previously committed.”

Carbon said it was in daily contact with the DOE and wasn't told that its application was coming up short. It also said that until it was told that the DOE would no longer work on the application that it had been assured it was a top priority and was encouraged to continue with the multimillion-dollar negotiation process.


Despite the anger from Carbon Motors, the DOE said it acted accordingly.


“Over the last two and a half years, the department has worked with Carbon Motors to try to negotiate a deal that supported their business while protecting the taxpayers,” Damien LaVera, an Energy Department spokesman, said in an e-mail to Automotive News. “While we were not able to come to an agreement on terms that would protect the taxpayers, we continue to believe that Carbon Motors is an innovative company with an interesting project and we wish them luck.”


Carbon says it is looking at financing alternatives for the E7 project.


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17Comments
Mar 12, 2012 5:16PM
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Nevertheless, I am still angry about the Obama administration rescinding the tax credit for clean diesel vehicles; the administration clearly favors gasoline hybrid electric and electric vehicles. That angers me.

I agree.  Yet at the same time, I don't think that tax credits should last forever on anything...  Give the credit for about 10 years so that it can get established; and scales of economy can lower production costs as well as aid development of more advanced/cleaner diesels, batteries, whatever...  And then phase the credit to zero over the next three to five years.

 

If interest in the Carbon Motors E7 is so great, then maybe the auto manufacturers should look into offering diesel engines in the vehicles that they currently build for police.  That would make good business sense would it not?

 

And it is good that you are angry.  Angry people vote.  I've been voting anti-incumbent since '96.  Congress' approval rating is somewhere between 10% and 15%.  Get rid of all of them.

Mar 12, 2012 5:39AM
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After throwing $10,000 on the hood for people to buy a Volt, theres no more money left to loan to Carbon.

Troy, I'm noticing a trend here with you.  I can't believe you're so stupid that you keep getting your facts wrong on so many subjects, it has to be intentional.  You pulled that $10,000 number from your you-know-what.  Show us, big guy, the proof of the $10,000 rebate/subsidy the government is providing toward the purchase of the Volt.  C'mon, prove it IF YOU CAN!

Mar 12, 2012 4:20AM
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Yes it did.  One thing correctly.  Just as mentioned...  One.  Singular.
Fine; very precise definition. Well done.

Nevertheless, I am still angry about the Obama administration rescinding the tax credit for clean diesel vehicles; the administration clearly favors gasoline hybrid electric and electric vehicles. That angers me.
Mar 12, 2012 4:16AM
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Just another over-priced vehicle that tries to answer a question nobody asked.
I know for a fact that Michigan state Police calls the Big Three every year to present their models specifically designed for law enforcement. These police models differ quite a bit from the regular ones. So somebody, namely law enforcement is asking the question. Please research.
Mar 11, 2012 4:40PM
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After throwing $10,000 on the hood for people to buy a Volt, theres no more money left to loan to Carbon.
Mar 11, 2012 12:07PM
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The cost is supposed to be around 50k. Current average for a new dodge charger outfitted with all gear etc. 42k. The average price for this once built in quantity will match that of current costs and have better fuel economy. I like the idea of catering the car specifically to police use. It will make for a far better vehicle for this use with any issues being resolved on a large scale as they will all be the same.
Mar 11, 2012 11:59AM
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Typical government for you...fund the ideas which make NO logical sense, and deny the ones which make both good economical and fundamental sense.
Mar 9, 2012 6:19PM
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Did it now? And when the government sinks funds into dubious electric hybrids and electric vehicles, but kills a tax credit for clean diesel vehicles, is that right, too?
Yes it did.  One thing correctly.  Just as mentioned...  One.  Singular.
Mar 9, 2012 11:56AM
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 They probably don't have the UAW behind them.

Good point!  The Obama Administration definitely isn't interested in helping out non-union shops. 

Mar 9, 2012 11:43AM
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 They probably don't have the UAW behind them.

 

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