Amid Toyota Troubles, Lexus Execs Rescued the GS Sedan
The new Lexus GS 350 almost didn't happen. What does that say about Toyota?
That the model stuck around is telling. The current GS (below) is an out-of-focus effort: it's too stiff and uncompromising to be a compelling luxury sedan, yet too distant and uninvolving to effectively battle cars like the Audi A6 and BMW 5-Series. The 2013 replacement doesn't improve on its predecessor visually, though it offers an interesting interior and will likely be priced attractively. It also uses the same 3.5-liter V6 and six-speed transmission found in the current GS (the optional V8 will no longer be offered, though a hybrid V6 will). The chassis is new but familiar; the front suspension mostly carries over, but the rear suspension has been redesigned.
All you guys are crazy. "The 2013 replacement doesn't improve on its predecessor visually" Are you blind? Night and day comparison. The 2013 looks way better. It does look dated. Dated 2013! Reliability, lets not forget that. Mercedes and BMW are just not as reliable. Please don't ever compare Lexus to GM. That's like comparing a steak to the stuff you pull out of a turkey.
"toyoda" refers to Akio Toyoda, President of Toyota Motor Corp. The author is correct. You, alas, are not.
Like the butchered 2012 Camry, this new GS is a half-baked effort to redesign a car. Worse, like the Camry.....and just about every other Toyota, Lexus or Scion.......the platform and power train are just carryovers from last year's model, and they were dated and falling behind the competition already. These cars have no soul, no personality just like your regular bland and boring Toyota brand. While I can believe that they were seriously considering dropping the GS altogether, I'm truly baffled that the one thing the GS line had going for it, the V8, has been dropped! Now its even less appealing than before.
Lets face it, the Buick La cross helped hurt this car for about 20,000 less.The only thing I can think of in the GS's favor is that the GS is rear wheel drive instead of the Buick's front wheel drive. But not sure if that difference is worth $20k. Personally, I think the old GS300 was probably the best GS Lexus produced. The one powered by the 2JZ inline 6 engine and directly replaced the old Toyota Cressida. There is something about that model that just seemed right.
and others people talk about not knowing things are...At one time, I was a hardcore TOYOTA enthusiast. I owned three of them, and worked on several more. I can tear a TOYOTA apart and put it back together. I did timing belts, engine swaps, transmission swaps, head and head gasket replacements, rear-end differentials, conversions.
the platform and power train are just carryovers from last years model, and they were dated and falling behind the competition already.
I'm truly baffled that the one thing the GS line had going for it, the V8, has been dropped! Now its even less appealing than before.
I agree with Beltway. The styling on this newer model is horrible. It's too angular in the front, with too much going on, and no longer looks refined. Look at gen 1, 2, and 3. All of those looked refined and dignified. Now the front of the thing looks like a cross between a deli meat slicer and a shark.
If you'll notice historically, reviewers of this car have pointed out that at its weight and size, in order for it to have the character desired of a RWD sports-type sedan, it NEEDS the V8. The 400/430 V8 engines are fantastic, smooth things. Flatten it, and you're doing 100 in seconds; cruise at 80mph, and you can't hear it. Truly I think the loss of the V8 is a bad marketing plan on their part. Why limit a buyers option to spend MORE money with you? You have the engine already, it's not like the LS is going to lose it's V8 any time soon. So just pop it in there!
I've owned two GS300's. The latest since '2000 with 115,000miles and it runs flawlessly. Everything works and the paint still shines like a new penny. I can't bear to sell this one even though a few of the other old retired goats at the club have offered me much more than I could ever get from a dealer. The other reason I'm not selling is being retired does not afford me the old income to spend $50,000, or so, to buy another.
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